I Awaken

00:00:08 Speaker 3: What if the patterns playing out in your relationships were not random at all. What if they followed an ancient design? One that has been quietly hiding in plain sight your entire life? Today's conversation invites us to look beyond chance and into the deeper architecture of connection, timing, and soul agreements.

00:00:32 Speaker 3: Welcome to I awaken, a space for conversations that expand awareness and invite us into deeper alignment with who we truly are. Today I am joined by Alexander and Vicki, sacred strategy guides who work with what they call the Source Cards, a system that reveals life and relationship patterns through the structure of a standard deck of playing cards. In this episode, we are exploring understanding relationship dynamics through the lens of energetic design, timing and soul patterns, and how awareness can shift the way we love, Communicate and grow together. So welcome to awaken Alexandra and Vicky. Once again, I am very pleased to host you today.

00:01:21 Speaker 4: Oh, it's such a pleasure to be here. Thanks for having us.

00:01:24 Speaker 1: Thanks for having us.

00:01:27 Speaker 3: Thank you for being here. So, Alexandra and Vicky, uh, before we get into the cards themselves, I'm curious, when you first discovered this system, what shifted for you personally and how you understood relationships?

00:01:43 Speaker 1: Well, that's a big question and a good question. It shifted everything. It helped me to see what I could not see. It helped me to recognize patterns that I didn't even know I had still from my childhood. Conditionings programmings on unspoken assumptions. It helped me to see all that when by definition, if it's unconscious, we don't even know we have it. We don't even know what we don't know. And it helped me to see these patterns that I didn't even know, I didn't know about. Then I can make a different choice, but it's still a practice. It's still has been a practice for me and our marriage and our relationship to learn to see with these patterns myself more accurately and each other.

00:02:39 Speaker 3: That sounds amazing. You know, um, that sense of suddenly seeing order when where there once felt like chaos really sets the tone for this conversation. And, Vicki, uh, what about you?

00:02:54 Speaker 4: So this is my favorite topic. I you know, it's really what got me so excited about the source cards is the relationship dynamics. I when I first learned the system, I just started looking up everybody in my life, my friends, my family, my past relationships, past lovers, you name it. And it just brought so much healing and clarity to me. Knowing other people's cards to play in relationship to my cards to play. And, uh, yeah, I just I love this topic. I find it to be a phenomenal tool to help us in our relationships, you know, help us understand ourselves better and then other people better. And that helps the relationship, you know, the dynamic.

00:03:48 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. That's that's truly great to know. So, uh, moving on. Uh, you know, many people believe that relationships, uh, relationship challenges mean something is wrong or broken. But from your perspective, uh, what is the biggest misconception people have about relationship struggles.

00:04:10 Speaker 4: Well, you know, it doesn't necessarily mean something is wrong. It means that, you know, when when trouble happens, when things happen, there's challenging moments between two people. It's an amazing opportunity to really look at oneself, what is happening for me, and it's for both people to do that in a healthy relationship. Both people look at self-reflect, you know, and look at their own, uh, what's happening for themselves. It's really powerful. That's how we heal and grow is through relationships. So actually when a challenge happens in a relationship, it's a great, great, you know, opportunity for growth in oneself. Why am I feeling triggered? Why why do I feel this way in this interaction with this other person? And then diving deeper into oneself to as to, you know, what are the deeper triggers. It's not about the other person, it's about you. You know, it's about like, you know, if I'm triggered by something that Alexander does, that's something deeper for me to look at in myself. I cannot blame him for making me feel a certain way. Only I can make myself feel that way. So then it's for me to self-reflect and say, hey, what's my deeper, deep? What's deeply happening for me? What do I believe about myself? Life, this relationship, this interaction? Uh, that might not be true, but I'm believing it. Like, what fears do I have? Things like that. So it's a great opportunity for self-reflection and growth.

00:05:50 Speaker 3: That is a beautiful answer. And I honestly believe that so many people, uh, who are in relationships, they, they should be knowing this because, um, nowadays, you know, if something if something goes wrong, they think that the entire relationship is wrong, but it could be many other factors as well. And just like you said, uh, you know, there are certain things that only we can, uh, let ourselves feel. So it's about us, not about them. Yeah. So, yeah, instead of failure, these moments become signals, almost like invitations to understand the deeper pattern at play. So definitely. And and let's let's stay with that for a moment. Uh, how do the source cards help relieve the deeper energetic patterns that bring two people together in the first place?

00:06:45 Speaker 1: Reveal the patterns? Yeah, well, they do it beautifully. That's how they do it. It's very clear. It brings the patterns into sharp contrast, into sharp relief, because on the face of the cards themselves are patterns. So the cards themselves are patterns that show us the shape and size and dimension of the patterns. So, for instance, if we were talking about the four of hearts, let's say that in your life path of thirteen cards, which is determined by math, let's say one of your cards is the four of hearts, the four. If you ever look at a deck of playing cards is represented visually as a box. The four heart pips are in the shape of a box. That's a pattern. So if you have the four of hearts, let's say it's in an important position in your life path, especially for relationship dynamics. Let's say it's a mars card or a Venus card. Then, you know, and anyone who is in relationship with you will know that you might have a tendency to box up your feelings or keep your feelings in a box. On the other side, positively speaking, it can mean that you're emotionally strong, that you're solid emotionally and reliable emotionally. So these are patterns. And then we have free will of how to play them out. But at least we can know what the patterns are and we can see them clearly. And then we have more information to make better decisions.

00:08:23 Speaker 3: That's that's really interesting. And it's powerful to, you know, your relationships, um, framed as design rather than coincidence, as if each connection carries a specific curriculum. So yeah, that that was really interesting. But, uh, you know, how do these unseen patterns tend to show up in everyday relationship dynamics, like, like conflict, attraction or recurring themes? people can't seem to move past.

00:08:55 Speaker 2: One of the.

00:08:56 Speaker 4: one of the patterns that comes up often is the shadow energy. We have a life path of thirteen plus cards based on our date of birth, and each of these cards shows a different aspect of our human being. And the Pluto card is the ninth card in the life path. And that is the shadow. That's the unconscious hidden fears. So often these unconscious, hidden fears come to the surface, especially in a relationship. They will rear their heads. Uh, the energies will come up, and often there's a dance between both people and their shadows. They'll do some shadow boxing or shadow dancing with each other. Where, uh, one will trigger the other. The one shadow triggers the other shadow. And until you really illuminate those shadows and those patterns, that'll keep playing out, you know, until you really name it and see what it is. That's on an unconscious level that's coming up. Uh, and then, you know, that's where healing happens is to really move through the shadow energy, uh, into the light. It becomes a gift when you really start to play the shadow energy well. So, yeah, they can come up on a regular basis in all different relationship dynamics, the shadow energy, because it's unconscious and it's all all, all fear. Fear based.

00:10:24 Speaker 3: Wow. That that explains, you know, why certain dynamics, uh, feel so familiar, almost like they're scripted even when the people involved change. So, yeah, that that makes a lot of sense. Uh, but, uh, you know, uh, that brings me to the question with when someone begins to, uh, recognize their own pattern within a relationship, what is a grounded first step that they can take to work with it consciously rather than resist it?

00:10:57 Speaker 1: Well, you just said the magic words, which is work with it consciously. As soon as we make an unconscious pattern conscious by definition, we've changed the pattern. We've changed an aspect of the pattern, which is a total change in the pattern itself. The pattern went from being unconscious to being conscious. And that change is a total change. So that's the main benefit in the first place of knowing your source cards in relationship dynamics is you're able to make what was unconscious conscious, instead of then it ruling over you in an unconscious way and determining your behavior in ways you don't even realize. Suddenly you have awareness to make a choice. And so that is the first and most important step is to have that awareness and then to realize that you always have the ability to make a choice of how you want to play it out. You choose do you want to play the high side or the low side? So it's the awareness first and then it's a choice.

00:12:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's definitely a very important and you know awareness. It becomes a form of choice. Not not about fixing the other person but about playing your own cards with intention. And, uh, you know, Alexander and Vicki, all of this, uh, you know, conversation that we're having today. It it has really made me curious to know how all of these actually works. So if you could just, you know, give a demo for our listeners, that would be really great. Yeah. Just like an example.

00:12:47 Speaker 1: Um, could you say more about what kind of demo you mean?

00:12:51 Speaker 3: Like, how do these cards actually work?

00:12:58 Speaker 4: So, um, going with the example of the unconscious hidden fears in the relationship, I'll use us as an example. Uh, so my Pluto card, my unconscious hidden fears is the four of hearts. The four is a box. Hearts represent emotions. It's about structure, foundation, organization of the heart of emotions. Um, on the low side, I could really shove my feelings into a box and not express my feelings. And this is very true. I did that a lot of my life, where I would just kind of act as if everything was okay. Nothing's wrong. I'm not really feeling, you know, I don't feel bad about anything. I'm, you know, it's all good and just pushing everything into a box. So it'd be important for me to actually really, you know, get in touch with my feelings. What am I really feeling? Am I feeling sad? Am I feeling angry? And then express them? And then Alexander, do you want to talk about your your Pluto card being the king of clubs?

00:13:58 Speaker 1: Yes. So this is, I guess, one example of what a demo, you know, a demonstration would be is simply looking at the Pluto card. I mean, we have a whole life path of cards, but Vicky's talking about just one card in the whole life path, and that is an important thing to talk about for sure. This, uh, Pluto card. So it does give a good demonstration, I would say. And for example, my king of clubs, even in this moment, may be a little bit shadowy, as the king of clubs is someone who likes to get the last word and like to put his final word on something in the shadow side. And that can be me. It does happen where and in my own insecurity, I might want to speak the last word or truth, because clubs is the mind and the king is the authority. And that's something that Vicki has pointed out to me, that, you know, she sees that come out and it will come out in a way that I don't even recognize it because it's unconscious. And yet, on the positive side, the king of clubs is the speaker of truth, the one who can see what's true and speak it. What I'm learning still is how to navigate that, and how to be aware of my authority to speak the truth. And that's comes up in our dynamic.

00:15:23 Speaker 4: So then, uh, using that as an example, those two cards in the energy of our dynamics with each other, then what will happen is if I don't express my feelings and Alexander can feel that, then suddenly maybe he can come out with his king of clubs in a way in a low, lower, lower self way in a, you know, maybe a condescending way or I don't want to put words in your mouth like, you know, no, really, you tell me what the you know, I want you to speak for yourself. But if I'm not expressing myself and then like so the dynamic is I don't express my feelings. And then you'll, you know, your your shadow will come out as a result.

00:16:07 Speaker 1: The shadows get triggered by each other. That's something that we call shadow boxing. This is actually a very important dynamic in relationships. And maybe the biggest reason why relationships fail is this shadow boxing. Because we're not. Unless we choose to be, unless we bring consciousness to it. We're not aware of our own shadow side, and then we'll be in denial. I'm not doing that. What are you talking about? And in my case, with the King of clubs, it'll be. I'm not talking down to you or acting as if I've got the final word. What are you talking about? and Vicki's version is.

00:16:42 Speaker 4: And I'll be like, no, I'm not, I don't, I'm not feeling anything. I'm not feeling angry right now. I'm fine. I'm, I'm good. Like, I'm, I don't feel that way or whatever. Like in denial of any feelings. Um, and so then that will go back and forth and I'm sure that like, makes Alexander even more, like, annoyed, you know, that I would be, like, not expressing my feelings or not even aware of it. I'm really not aware of it. And then so then it just goes back and forth until I can realize, wait a minute. I actually feel, you know, angry about this situation or I feel sad about this situation, and then I start to express my feelings. And then, you know, that kind of dovetails into how you respond. Then finally, I'm saying my feel I'm expressing myself. Um, and then you can, you know, come forth in your shadow energy in a positive way as well.

00:17:33 Speaker 1: And vice versa. Yeah. It goes it, it they dovetail off each other. That's a term we came up with for ourselves. The dovetail that the shadow sides will trigger each other but will also benefit each other.

00:17:48 Speaker 3: Oh, that. That was really interesting. You know, I never thought that, uh, cards can represent us that well. And, uh, it it can create such interesting dynamics in relationships. So, yeah, that that was something very new. And I'm sure that, uh, our listeners feel the same. So, uh, that that makes me curious. Um, even even with awareness, uh, people still fall back into old dynamics. So what tends to happen when someone feels discouraged or stuck, and how can they stay aligned through those moments?

00:18:29 Speaker 4: Well, it's really bringing the awareness to oneself, you know, to honor, acknowledge what's happening for someone to really, really honor oneself and accept what's happening like in the moment doesn't mean that there can't be change. But first, I feel like there's a recognition and an acceptance of what is to be like, wow, I'm, you know, um, struggling again. I'm going through this again. And this really does not feel good. I feel super challenged. I feel, um, frustrated to just, like, be with that first, you know, to really acknowledge what is truly happening. And then from that place, uh, you know, after really accepting oneself, uh, in that moment of what's really, truly happening, being honest with oneself, then there can be a process of, you know, you know, looking at, you know, how one is playing cards and how they can shift the energy, you know, how can they? You know, move through it to embody and activate some of the higher sides of the energy patterns of these cards that are in play.

00:19:46 Speaker 3: Absolutely. And that reminder that, uh, growth is, uh, cyclical, not linear. It feels especially important. And relationships. So yeah, thank you for sharing that, Vicki. So, uh, you know, even when people become self aware, change doesn't always follow immediately. So why do you think that awareness alone isn't enough all the time? And what bridges the gap between knowing and living differently?

00:20:23 Speaker 1: Huh? I'm not sure I would say that. I think sometimes awareness is enough. Certainly, awareness is the first and most important step. Awareness is the foundation. Uh, sometimes in my experience of working with people, awareness is enough. When they become aware of the patterns, automatically compassion arises in them. Automatically, they're able to forgive themselves or forgive their partner simply because they have the awareness of oh my goodness, that's what makes him tick. Or oh wow, that's why she's like that. And there's more. Because I know for myself there's more. When I've been aware of my cards, I still have work to do. And that work is typically peeling back the conditioning and the programming and assumptions from my childhood or trauma, traumatic experiences, um, limiting beliefs that I may have picked up along the way that are stopping me from truly playing my cards right. Pun intended. Then that's the work to do, is to release and remove anything that's getting in the way of us actually playing our cards right?

00:21:38 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, yeah, that that makes sense because I think that awareness is definitely the first step. Once you know what the problem is, you can figure out the solution as well. So that that makes sense. Yeah. So Alexandra and Vicki, for someone listening who feels trapped in a repeating relationship pattern, what is one compassionate question they can ask themselves today to begin shifting the dynamic?

00:22:12 Speaker 4: What is what is my part in this dynamic, in this interaction, in this challenge that's happening in this relationship? Like, what am I doing? What am I feeling? What am I believing about the relationship or myself? Um, that could be Be contributing to what's happening to the to the imbalance, to the negative interaction that's happening. You know, how how am I contributing to this? How am I creating it?

00:22:50 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think that would, uh, help the listeners self-reflect and look at the relationships, uh, in a different perspective. So definitely at its core, this conversation reminds us that relationships are not random. They are mirrors designed to awaken us into deeper self-understanding. So for listeners who want to explore the source cards and your work more deeply, where is the best place for them to find you?

00:23:22 Speaker 1: Uh, they can find us at the source cards dot com. They can use the widget on the home page to enter their birth date and look up their cards. They can also look up the cards of their spouse, significant other, parents, children, friends, family, and look up everyone's cards in their life path and start to see how it resonates. Start to see what the patterns are and what they notice from that. And then from there, if they want, we can support them, coach them to play their cards right or Vicki does healing work as well. All designed to help people play their cards right in life.

00:24:10 Speaker 3: Amazing. I'll have all the details on my show listing for our listeners to reach out to you. So to our listeners, thank you for sharing your wisdom and presence today. And to Alexandra and Vicki. Thank you for being here. May this conversation invite you to look at your relationships, not as problems to solve, but as pathways to awakening. Until next time, stay curious, stay open and keep listening inward.